{"id":144,"date":"2006-09-06T14:29:59","date_gmt":"2006-09-06T14:29:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scientopia.org\/blogs\/goodmath\/2006\/09\/06\/obnoxious-answers-to-obnoxious-questions\/"},"modified":"2006-09-06T14:29:59","modified_gmt":"2006-09-06T14:29:59","slug":"obnoxious-answers-to-obnoxious-questions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/2006\/09\/06\/obnoxious-answers-to-obnoxious-questions\/","title":{"rendered":"Obnoxious Answers to Obnoxious Questions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A few of my recent posts here appear to have struck some nerves, and I&#8217;ve been<br \/>\ngetting lots of annoying email containing the same questions, over and over again. So rather than reply individually, I&#8217;m going to answer them here in the hope that either (a) people will see the answers before send the question to me, and therefore not bother me; or (b) conclude that I&#8217;m an obnoxious asshole who isn&#8217;t worth the trouble of writining to, and therefore not bother me. I suspect that (b) is more likely than (a), but hey, whatever works.<br \/>\nAnswers beneath the fold.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br \/>\n**Question**: *Why are you so rude? There&#8217;s no need to call people stupid, or idiotic, or ridiculous just because they made a mistake.*<br \/>\n**Obnoxious Answer**: I&#8217;m rude because it&#8217;s fun.<br \/>\n**Serious Answer**: There *is* a need to call some people or some ideas stupid.<br \/>\nWhen people are writing about things like math and science, I think you can loosely group things into four categories.<br \/>\n1. *Right*. Some stuff is just simply correct: good data, good arguments, valid logic.<br \/>\n2. *Wrong*. Sometimes people make a mistake and get something wrong. They accidentally miss a step, or misinterpret a piece of data, or misunderstand something. Or they just plain get stuff wrong &#8211; they&#8217;ve got a hypothesis about how something works, and it turns out to be incorrect. Hey, it happens. In the first case, people aren&#8217;t perfect, and we all make mistakes from time to time. And in the second, that&#8217;s actually a *good* thing: it&#8217;s what science is about, figuring out which ideas are right, and which are wrong.<br \/>\n3. *Lies*. Sometimes people deliberately write things that are not true. For example, William Dembski *knows* that his so-called &#8220;Universal Probability Bound&#8221; is nonsense, but he continues to use it. Lies should be called out as lies, and the liar who wrote them deserves whatever abuse get heaped on them.<br \/>\n4. *Stupid*. Some things are just so wrong that they go beyond mere wrongness into an entirely different territory. When someone tries to argue that &pi;=3, or that if there&#8217;s a 1 in 1000 chance of being in an airplane crash, then the average victim flew 1000 times &#8211; well, that&#8217;s not just wrong. That&#8217;s *stupid*. And people who write *stupid* things deserve to be called stupid, and to have the stupidity of their arguments publicly ridiculed.<br \/>\n&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br \/>\n**Question**: *Who are you to criticize all of these famous people?*<br \/>\n**Obnoxious Answer**: I&#8217;m someone who isn&#8217;t an idiot.<br \/>\n**Serious answer**: I&#8217;m someone who isn&#8217;t an idiot. Yeah, seriously, that&#8217;s it. My entire qualification for writing critiques of famous people.<br \/>\nAnd that&#8217;s plenty of qualification. Because *wrong* is *wrong*. It doesn&#8217;t matter how famous you are, how many letters you can put after your name, how many books you&#8217;ve published, how many awards you&#8217;ve won, how much money you have, how often you appear on TV, or anything like that. If you say something that&#8217;s incorrect, then *anyone* who knows enough to see the error is qualified to point it out.<br \/>\n&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>\n**Question**: *Don&#8217;t you feel guilty that publicly mocking people could lose them their jobs, or prevent them from getting jobs\/tenure?*<br \/>\n**Obnoxious answer**: No, not at all.<br \/>\n**Serious answer**: Folks, this is a *blog*. How much influence do you think a stupid little math blog has on the real world?  Do you *really* think that a university  committee considering giving someone tenure is gong to have a conversion like the following?<br \/>\n&gt;**ProfA**: This guy&#8217;s really good. I think we should give him tenure.<br \/>\n&gt;**ProfB**: Yeah, you&#8217;re right. Definitely a guy who deserves tenure.<br \/>\n&gt;**ProfC**: Hey, before we make a decision, why don&#8217;t we do a google blog search on him? Oh, look, that geek on Good Math\/Bad Math said he&#8217;s an idiot!<br \/>\n&gt;**ProfA**: Uh-oh. That&#8217;s bad! <br \/>\n&gt;**ProfB**: Yeah, no tenure for someone who got criticized by a *blog*!<br \/>\nEven assuming (most likely incorrectly) that anything on this blog could affect anyone&#8217;s career (other than my own): if the individual in question is writing stupid or dishonest stuff that&#8217;s relevant to the work they&#8217;d be doing, then *they don&#8217;t deserve the job*. If you&#8217;ve got a creationist who writes articles about how evolution is impossible applying for a job teaching evolutionary biology, then *they don&#8217;t deserve the job*. They&#8217;ve disqualified themselves by publicly demonstrating their incompetence. If you&#8217;ve got someone applying for a job as a mathematician, and they&#8217;ve published articles based on incompetently written, stupidly wrong mathematical arguments: they aren&#8217;t qualified for a job as a mathematician. It&#8217;s not my fault that they&#8217;re incompetent.<br \/>\n&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br \/>\n**Question**: *Commenter X is being an asshole. Why won&#8217;t you ban him?*<br \/>\n**Obnoxious answer**: Because it&#8217;s fun watching you get made fun of, you twit.<br \/>\n**Serious answer**: I&#8217;ve never banned anyone from posting comments on this blog. I hope that I never have to. There are only two reasons that I would ban someone: spam, and being consistently and excessively abusive towards other commenters. Note that someone repeatedly pointing out that you&#8217;re *wrong* does not count as being abusive.<br \/>\nThat does *not* include being abusive towards me. I&#8217;ve put myself out in public as the author of this blog, saying some seriously rude and obnoxious things about people. I don&#8217;t think it would be fair for me to get upset and ban people for being rude and obnoxious back towards me.<br \/>\n&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>\n**Question**: *How would you feel if someone did a slam job on you like you&#8217;ve done to so many people?*<br \/>\n**Obnoxious answer**: I&#8217;d get down on my knees and cry about how unfair the world is.<br \/>\n**Serious answer**: It&#8217;s happened. People have picked posts on this blog, and used them to attack me. I&#8217;ve been called everything from a good for nothing claptrap nobody to a child molester. Sure it pisses me off. But that&#8217;s life. In the end, truth wins out. If what I&#8217;m saying is right, then the fact that a couple of yahoos called me some rotten names is no big deal. If what I&#8217;m saying is wrong, then I deserve the abuse.<br \/>\n&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>\n**Question**: *Are you really as much of a pencil-necked geek as you sound like on your blog?*<br \/>\n**Obnoxious answer**: Yes.<br \/>\n**Serious answer**: Yes.<br \/>\n&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br \/>\n**Question**: *You&#8217;re a stupid obnoxious geek who&#8217;ll never get laid in his entire life, why don&#8217;t you just shut the fuck up?*<br \/>\n**Obnoxious answer**: What does being a geek have to do with getting laid? Don&#8217;t you realize that there are some really amazing women geeks out there? Just who do you think they wind up with? Morons like you?<br \/>\n**Serious answer**: That&#8217;s more of a rhetorical question than a real one, isn&#8217;t it? Even so, it&#8217;s really quite amazing how often I&#8217;ve gotten some variant of this in email from some irate jackass. This is obviously the preferred question for the illiterates out there: I&#8217;ve never yet seen a single version without errors in grammar, spelling, *and* punctuation. Come on guys, can&#8217;t you get through a single sentence without screwing up?<br \/>\n&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br \/>\n**Question**: *Why do you waste time writing your stupid blog, it&#8217;s not like anyone&#8217;s actually interested in reading it?*<br \/>\n**Obnoxious answer**: You obviously read it, and were sufficiently motivated by whatever I wrote to go to the trouble of sending me mail. Why?<br \/>\n**Serious answer**: I get more positive mail than negative; there&#8217;s an active group of intelligent people posting comments regularly; and I&#8217;m consistently getting over 1000 unique visitors every day. 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