{"id":413,"date":"2007-05-10T16:10:42","date_gmt":"2007-05-10T16:10:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scientopia.org\/blogs\/goodmath\/2007\/05\/10\/silliness-about-copyrighting-numbers-including-bad-poetry\/"},"modified":"2007-05-10T16:10:42","modified_gmt":"2007-05-10T16:10:42","slug":"silliness-about-copyrighting-numbers-including-bad-poetry","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/2007\/05\/10\/silliness-about-copyrighting-numbers-including-bad-poetry\/","title":{"rendered":"Silliness About Copyrighting Numbers (Including Bad Poetry)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> In the comments on my DMCA post, a reader asked me to comment on <a href=\"http:\/\/qntm.org\/number\">this piece of silliness.<\/a> I try not to disappoint my readers, so here&#8217;s my take. It&#8217;s a pile of silliness with the distinct aroma of astrotur &#8211; silliness mixed with a bit of deliberate stupidity in order to obscure things.<\/p>\n<p> The basic idea of it is: how dare we complain about the idea of copyrighting numbers! After all, everything you can do on a computer is ultimately stored in a form that can be interpreted as a great big number! So we&#8217;re always copyrighting numbers: every book, every article, every poem, every story that&#8217;s ever been copyrighted is really just a number. So why should we start complaining now unless we&#8217;re just a bunch or dirty anticorporate hippies who are complaining because we want to stick it to the movie companies?<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p> According to this author, what makes the difference between a <em>reasonable<\/em> copyrighted numbers and <em>unreasonable<\/em> copyrighted numbers is just the size of the number. Really big numbers, numbers that we couldn&#8217;t hope to encounter in real life because they&#8217;re too long, those should be copyrightable. Basically, if you represent a number using an integer, and that integer is so big that you couldn&#8217;t possibly count to it, then it should be reasonable to copyright it.<\/p>\n<p> The thing is, that&#8217;s just bullshit. Bullshit that positively reeks of the same kind of crap that people like Dembski like to pull with their &#8220;Universal Probability Bound&#8221; and similar garbage. It doesn&#8217;t matter how probable or improbable something is. A two-word phrase can be copyrightable &#8211; and deserves the full protection granted by copyright, even though it&#8217;s <em>not<\/em> a particularly improbable value when encoded as a number. A two-hour burst of random noise recorded by an instrument observing the solar wind is vastly more improbable than this article, but it&#8217;s afforded <em>less<\/em> protection under copyright law. Copyright has nothing to do with probability: under copyright law, incredibly improbable coincidences can be permissible; and likely coincidences can be punishable. Copyright is based on a matter of <em>intent<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p> It&#8217;s just deliberate foolishness to pretend that copyrighting this article is really<br \/>\ncopyrighting a number. Yes, any article, any creative work that can be viewed on a computer<br \/>\nis stored as a stream of bits, and can be encoded in numeric form. That doesn&#8217;t mean that<br \/>\nby asserting my copyright on this article that I&#8217;m claiming to own a number. I claim to own<br \/>\n<em>these words<\/em>, and their <em>meaning<\/em> as an article. I&#8217;m not claiming the rights<br \/>\nto certain numbers &#8211; this article rendered as ASCII text with macintosh line endings, this<br \/>\narticle rendered as UTF-8 with unix line endings, this article rendered as UTF-8 and then<br \/>\ngzip compressed. I&#8217;m claiming the rights to <em>the article that I produced<\/em>. If you<br \/>\nhappen to create a bitmap which has a segment that&#8217;s identical to some segment of this<br \/>\ndocument after being encoding in EBCDIC and then gzipped, I&#8217;m have no rights to that. It<br \/>\ndoesn&#8217;t matter <em>how unlikely<\/em> it is for that to happen by chance. I don&#8217;t have the<br \/>\nrights to something that <em>you<\/em> produced independently.<\/p>\n<p> The fundamental issue about copyrights has <em>nothing<\/em> to do with how probable or improbable a given text is in some arbitrary numeric encoding. A 30 character haiku has no less value in terms of copyright than a 30 megabyte sound file or a 3 gigabyte video file &#8211; even though the Haiku is infinitely more probable as a result of a random process. That doesn&#8217;t make the Haiku <em>less<\/em> valuable, or less copyrightable. The point of copyright is to allow people to protect their work &#8211; and accidental collisions have <em>never<\/em> been criminal, no matter how improbable.<\/p>\n<p> Look at the following Haiku, which I just wrote:<\/p>\n<p>Musty air, smog, crowds<br \/>\nSubway,  rushing traffic chaos, noise<br \/>\nBut I do love my New York<\/p>\n<p> That&#8217;s 60 characters, and 10 or 11 words, depending on how you count it. With a suitable dictionary, a bunch of computers could generate every possible combination of 11 words that fit the Haiku structure in a not entirely unreasonable amount of time. (Back of the envelope sketch, assuming a dictionary of 200,000 words, categorized by part of speech, a simple grammar so try to make sure that you only generate potentially syntactically valid phrases, comes out to several quintillion possible haiku (10^15); fling a good-sized bunch of computers at it, and you can generate every possible one in less than a year.)<\/p>\n<p> On the other hand, the noise recorded by dropping a digital tape recorder in a subway stop for an hour, you could <em>never<\/em> reproduce, not by running every computer in the world for the entire lifetime of the universe. <\/p>\n<p> Does copyright law say that my Haiku or the tape of subway noise is more valuable?<br \/>\nDoes it even differentiate between them? (Answer: unclear. Under some circumstances, the<br \/>\nsubway noise would be copyrightable, in which case it would be treated <em>as equal<\/em> in<br \/>\nvalue to the Haiku under the law; under other circumstances, the subway noise would be<br \/>\nconsidered non-creative public domain, in which case the Haiku is more valuable under the<br \/>\nlaw. In <em>no<\/em> circumstance is subway noise <em>more<\/em> valuable than a copyrighted<br \/>\npoem. And in no circumstance does a calculation of the relative probability of generating<br \/>\nsomething randomly have <em>any<\/em> impact on copyright law. On the other hand, from a purely aesthetic viewpoint, the subway noise is better than my poetry.)<\/p>\n<p> What&#8217;s even worse than the shoddy probability argument, is that the argument is<br \/>\ndeliberately obfuscating the real issue. Even if you accept &#8220;Oh yeah, you&#8217;re copyrighting<br \/>\nnumbers&#8221; as a legitimate argument, it&#8217;s irrelevant to the issues around the HD-DVD key<br \/>\nnonsense. No one is asserting <em>copyright<\/em> over the HD-DVD encryption key. The DMCA<br \/>\ndoes not grant them any new right to copyright an encryption key &#8211; they always had the<br \/>\nright to copyright it <em>as an encryption key<\/em>: but as such, it would be subject to<br \/>\nconstraints like fair use. Instead, what the DMCA has done is create something new. They<br \/>\ndon&#8217;t need to assert that they have a copyright on the number, and thus have rights over<br \/>\nits copying and distribution. In fact, they are <em>not<\/em> asserting that they have a<br \/>\ncopyright on that number. What the DMCA does is say by virtue of the fact that they<br \/>\n<em>used<\/em> that number to encrypt some copyrighted work for the purpose of copy<br \/>\nprotection, that they have a <em>greater<\/em> right to control the use of that number than<br \/>\nthey would if they merely had a copyright.<\/p>\n<p> Let me repeat that, because it&#8217;s a critical point. <em>They are not asserting that they have a copyright on the HD-DVD key<\/em>. They are asserting <em>far greater rights<\/em> than what is granted by copyright. Under the DMCA, by virtue of its status as a copyright<br \/>\nprotection circumvention device, they have far more right to sue over its copying and distribution than you or I have to sue over copyright infringement of our creative works. They&#8217;ve created a new category of intellectual property &#8211; not copyright, not patent, not trademark. And this new category gives them an obscene degree of control over the use of that property &#8211; which is just numbers.<\/p>\n<p> And they can do this with <em>any<\/em> number. They can choose to use 128 bits from the binary expansion of &pi; &#8211; and then threaten to sue Kate Bush for singing the digits of &pi; in a song. They couldn&#8217;t do that with simple copyright &#8211; but they can with the DMCA.<\/p>\n<p> To respond to a couple of the objections that have been brought up:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> It&#8217;s true that <em>most<\/em> of these abuses of DMCA would probably not wind up surviving a jury trial. But that&#8217;s irrelevant: until it gets thrown out by a court, it remains the law, and people remain potentially liable for lawsuits and punishment. For the moment, the law in the US says that <em>if<\/em> they use a number to encrypt a copyrighted work, they have ownership rights far in excess of copyright. And even if <em>most<\/em> of the abuses would not survive a trial, there&#8217;s a good chance that at least <em>some<\/em> would survive trial. So those of us with limited resources have to be very careful to protect ourselves, which means behaving as if every arbitrary piece of insanity is enforceable until it&#8217;s proven that it isn&#8217;t.<\/li>\n<li> Reading laws is a remarkably tricky thing. The best advice I&#8217;ve ever heard about it came from a lawyer who told me: &#8220;You&#8217;re a geek. Don&#8217;t <em>ever<\/em> read a law. It looks like it&#8217;s english, but it&#8217;s <em>not<\/em>. It&#8217;s in <em>legal<\/em>, which is a different language.&#8221; At my previous job, I had a lawyer explain parts of the DMCA to me, and what I&#8217;ve said is my understanding of it. The legal meaning of a <em>device<\/em> is tricky, and it&#8217;s not what any sane person would use. But my understanding, on the basis of discussions with people whose job is to interpret these things is that this <em>is<\/em> what the courts currently recognize. I&#8217;d <em>love<\/em> to be wrong about this &#8211; so if you anything published by an IP lawyer that would contradict that I&#8217;ve written, please point me at it. But laymen&#8217;s interpretation law is not just worthless &#8211; it&#8217;s potentially <em>dangerous<\/em>: by reading and interpreting the law yourself, you can open yourselves to increased punishment for willful violation. It sucks, but it&#8217;s the way the law works. <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the comments on my DMCA post, a reader asked me to comment on this piece of silliness. I try not to disappoint my readers, so here&#8217;s my take. It&#8217;s a pile of silliness with the distinct aroma of astrotur &#8211; silliness mixed with a bit of deliberate stupidity in order to obscure things. 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