{"id":600,"date":"2008-02-21T13:16:39","date_gmt":"2008-02-21T13:16:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scientopia.org\/blogs\/goodmath\/2008\/02\/21\/ethics-questions-dealing-with-senior-researchers\/"},"modified":"2008-02-21T13:16:39","modified_gmt":"2008-02-21T13:16:39","slug":"ethics-questions-dealing-with-senior-researchers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/2008\/02\/21\/ethics-questions-dealing-with-senior-researchers\/","title":{"rendered":"Ethics Questions, dealing with senior researchers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> Over at <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/ethicsandscience\/2008\/02\/ask_an_ethicist_how_can_i_stan.php\">Adventures in Ethics and Science<\/a>, Janet<br \/>\nStemwedel, our resident ethicist, has been writing about academic<br \/>\ndishonesty and how professional researchers should respond to it.<\/p>\n<p> I&#8217;ve been on the receiving end of dishonesty on three occasions &#8211;<br \/>\nranging from a trivial case (arguably not dishonest at all) to the profound.<br \/>\nI&#8217;ll describe my three experiences, along with how I did respond to them, and how I <em>could have<\/em> responded to them. Unfortunately, my experience isn&#8217;t very<br \/>\nencouraging, and most of my advice comes down to: always, <em>always<\/em> keep a paper trail: it can&#8217;t hurt, but don&#8217;t count on it being useful.<\/p>\n<p>  I don&#8217;t want to be too discouraging here. I don&#8217;t think that there<br \/>\nare many dishonest researchers out there. The overwhelming majority of professional<br \/>\nresearchers are scrupulously honest people who give credit where it&#8217;s due, and who would never do anything to<br \/>\ntake credit for anyone else&#8217;s work, who would never steal an idea, and who would<br \/>\nnever do anything even remotely questionable when it comes to<br \/>\nintellectual honesty. The problem is, it doesn&#8217;t take much to poison<br \/>\nthe well &#8211; one person out of a hundred is easily enough to create a<br \/>\nhuge problem. And the nature of power and politics in research makes it<br \/>\npossible for that dishonest one to get themselves into a position where<br \/>\npeople are scared to come forward about it.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p> My first and least serious experience involved a conference<br \/>\npaper. In computer science, most peer reviewed publications are<br \/>\nactually in conferences, not in journals. Work is published first in<br \/>\nconferences, and conference papers are actually more prestigious than<br \/>\njournal papers. (Acceptance rates for journal papers are quite high,<br \/>\nwell above 50%. Acceptance rates for good conferences are typically<br \/>\nbetween 15 and 20 percent.) In general, you don&#8217;t write a journal<br \/>\npaper until you have multiple conference papers that you can cite in<br \/>\nit. The conferences are really where it&#8217;s at.<\/p>\n<p> So I submitted a paper to a top conference &#8211; acceptance rates in<br \/>\nthe 15% range. The reviews were the best I&#8217;ve ever gotten. The reviews<br \/>\nsummarized their opinions for different categories using a 1 to 10<br \/>\nscale. My paper averaged between 8 and 9. Two of the three reviewers<br \/>\nrecommended it for the &#8220;best paper in conference&#8221; award. But it got<br \/>\nrejected. The program chair was offended at the way that I described<br \/>\nthe program chairs system in my related work. (I wasn&#8217;t critical of it; he<br \/>\njust thought that I didn&#8217;t discuss it in enough depth.) So he spiked it.<\/p>\n<p> In my opinion, there&#8217;s something wrong with the PC overriding the<br \/>\nopinions of the reviewers in that way, because of what he percieved as<br \/>\na personal slight. But technically, he was within his rights to do it<br \/>\n&#8211; it was allowed by the reviewing rules of the conference. So I was<br \/>\nupset, but I moved on. There really wasn&#8217;t anything I could do about<br \/>\nit. Looking back at it now, I still don&#8217;t see anything that I could<br \/>\nhave done. It was a case where all that I could do was accept it, and<br \/>\nsubmit the paper elsewhere. I ended up publishing it in a much less prestigious conference. But that&#8217;s the way the cookie crumbles.<\/p>\n<p> My second experience was much more serious, and much more<br \/>\nupsetting. I was at one of the major programming language conferences,<br \/>\npresenting a poster. One of my friends introduced me to a student from<br \/>\nUIUC, who was doing work that was related to mine. We spent a couple<br \/>\nof hours at the conference banquet talking about our work. About 9<br \/>\nmonths later, he published a paper proposing a change to his system<br \/>\nthat was clearly based on some of the ideas I discussed with him. I<br \/>\nwrote him a polite note saying, roughly, &#8220;I&#8217;m not sure if you<br \/>\nremember, but back at XXX conference, we talked about our work, and I<br \/>\ntold you that I was trying YYY idea. In your new paper, you use YYY,<br \/>\nbut you didn&#8217;t cite me. If it&#8217;s not too much trouble, I&#8217;d really<br \/>\nappreciate it if you could add a citation to any other papers where<br \/>\nyou discuss that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p> His response was shocking. He basically said &#8220;You didn&#8217;t publish it, so<br \/>\nyou&#8217;ve got no proof that I got the idea from you, and who&#8217;s going to believe a student from a dinky little school like UD over a student a UIUC?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p> Looking back, what could I have done differently? Nothing<br \/>\n<em>good<\/em>. What I learned from that, and subsequent experiences is<br \/>\n<em>don&#8217;t talk about unpublished work in progress to people you don&#8217;t<br \/>\nknow<\/em>. I hate the idea of telling people to do that. But I&#8217;ve seen<br \/>\nfar too many examples of things like that happening &#8211; people hearing<br \/>\nabout unpublished work-in-progress, and scooping it. I do still talk<br \/>\nto people about my work, but I keep it very vague, and don&#8217;t talk<br \/>\nabout new ideas unless I know and trust the person that I&#8217;m talking<br \/>\nto.  Nothing get discussed until it&#8217;s published in some form, so that<br \/>\nI have evidence that I did it first.<\/p>\n<p> The third experience was the most serious by far, the most upsetting,<br \/>\nand the most intractable. After getting out of school and getting a job, I was discussing work with a coworker. The coworker took the ideas, and published them<br \/>\nunder his own name.<\/p>\n<p> In this case, I had the paper trail. I had the documents that had<br \/>\nbeen presented to the management at my lab more than a year before the<br \/>\nscum had heard about them. I took advantage of what was known as the<br \/>\n&#8220;open door&#8221; policy &#8211; we were allowed to go to any manager or executive<br \/>\nwhen something like that happened to raise a complaint. I went to one<br \/>\nof the upper-level managers who I had presented the work to, and<br \/>\ndescribed what had happened, along with dates of meetings where I had<br \/>\npresented to him, to other people, and when I had described the work<br \/>\nto the scum. I expected some kind of serious action to be taken &#8211; here<br \/>\nwas proof, hard evidence of outright intellectual theft. What<br \/>\nhappened?  <em>Nothing<\/em>. The scum was apparently well-known for<br \/>\ndoing that (but no one had told me), and because he had excellent<br \/>\npolitical connections, no one dared to do anything to reprimand him. So the<br \/>\nwhole matter was dropped.<\/p>\n<p> I don&#8217;t know what I could have done differently. I think I did the<br \/>\nright thing. It would have been wrong to refuse to discuss work in<br \/>\nprogress with a coworker. I had a strong paper trail showing what I<br \/>\nhad done when &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t have kept more or better evidence that it was<br \/>\nmy work. I raised the issue in the right way, with the right person.  I<br \/>\nwas calm, professional, and thorough. But I ultimately relied on the idea<br \/>\nthat honesty could trump politics. That wasn&#8217;t true. No amount of evidence<br \/>\ncould have made a difference. The thief got away with it &#8211; as he had done on<br \/>\nnumerous occasions in the past, and as I assume he continues to do today.<\/p>\n<p> To provide one (sort of) encouraging case: I know people who used to work at another, now defunct, research lab. One of their lab directors had, for years, been<br \/>\nusing the labs &#8220;publication permission&#8221; system to deny permission to publish to<br \/>\nhis underlings, taking their papers, putting his name on them, and submitting them. He even won a fellowship an a major professional organization on the basis of his stolen work. He was, eventually, caught with the help of a corporate ombudsman, fired, and stripped of his fellowship. Alas, he&#8217;d done this for close to 20 years, and the lab only survived for about six months after he was fired.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Over at Adventures in Ethics and Science, Janet Stemwedel, our resident ethicist, has been writing about academic dishonesty and how professional researchers should respond to it. I&#8217;ve been on the receiving end of dishonesty on three occasions &#8211; ranging from a trivial case (arguably not dishonest at all) to the profound. 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