{"id":783,"date":"2009-06-24T15:10:55","date_gmt":"2009-06-24T15:10:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scientopia.org\/blogs\/goodmath\/2009\/06\/24\/crossword-guy-just-doesnt-get-math\/"},"modified":"2009-06-24T15:10:55","modified_gmt":"2009-06-24T15:10:55","slug":"crossword-guy-just-doesnt-get-math","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/2009\/06\/24\/crossword-guy-just-doesnt-get-math\/","title":{"rendered":"Crossword Guy just doesn&#039;t get math"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> One of my pet peeves about people and math is that most<br \/>\npeople don&#8217;t really have a clue of what math is. I&#8217;ve been writing<br \/>\nthis blog for something over three years, and by the standards of<br \/>\na lot of people, I&#8217;ve almost never written about math.<\/p>\n<p> Yesterday, my son&#8217;s kindergarten class had a picnic. On my way home,<br \/>\nI was listening to the local NPR station, which was interviewing some<br \/>\ncrossword puzzle writer whose name I cannot remember; I will therefore refer<br \/>\nto him as &#8220;crossword-boy&#8221;.  (It was not Will Shortz; Shortz is much smarter than the<br \/>\nguy they were interviewing.) At one point, they asked him something about<br \/>\nSudoku.<\/p>\n<p> His response was a bit disjointed &#8211; he couldn&#8217;t decide whether to talk about<br \/>\nthe history of Sudoku or about his opinion of it. His opinion is that it&#8217;s<br \/>\nincredibly dull and pointless, and that designing good Sudoku doesn&#8217;t require as<br \/>\nmuch creativity as designing good crosswords. (Just that much is annoying: I&#8217;m<br \/>\na Sudoku addict, and I&#8217;ve definitely noticed dramatic differences in Sudokus<br \/>\nfrom different places. Will Shortz&#8217;s Sudoku books have great ones; most computerized<br \/>\nSudoku games generate rather boring ones; the ones in most newspapers are<br \/>\nobviously computer generated.)<\/p>\n<p> In the course of babbling about how uninteresting, non-creative, and<br \/>\nunsatisfying Sudoko puzzles are, he let loose with the real stupidity: &#8220;You know,<br \/>\nSudoku doesn&#8217;t even have to use numbers, it can use any 9 symbols. It&#8217;s not a<br \/>\nmathematical puzzle <em>at all<\/em>. <\/p>\n<p> Because it doesn&#8217;t rely on arithmetic, according to crossword-boy,<br \/>\nit&#8217;s not mathematical <em>at all<\/em>. He went on to say that it&#8217;s<br \/>\njust a <em>logic<\/em> puzzle, not a math puzzle at all.<\/p>\n<p> Sorry pal, but logic <em>is math<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p> Sudoku is an incredibly mathematical puzzle. It&#8217;s not an<br \/>\n<em>arithmetic<\/em> puzzle, but it&#8217;s a highly mathematical one.<br \/>\nIn computer science terms, it&#8217;s a moderately<br \/>\ncomplex constraint-solving puzzle.<\/p>\n<p> Math is more than arithmetic. It&#8217;s more than numbers. Math<br \/>\nis really the formal study of logic and structure. Numbers and arithmetic<br \/>\nare one kind of structured system described using logic which can be<br \/>\nstudied and understood using math. But pretty much <em>everything<\/em><br \/>\nwith a precise, formal structure to it has at least an element of<br \/>\nmathematics. The structure of crossword-boy&#8217;s crossword puzzles<br \/>\nis fundamentally mathematical.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of my pet peeves about people and math is that most people don&#8217;t really have a clue of what math is. 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