{"id":820,"date":"2009-11-09T22:05:48","date_gmt":"2009-11-09T22:05:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scientopia.org\/blogs\/goodmath\/2009\/11\/09\/berlinski-still-pompous-still-wrong\/"},"modified":"2009-11-09T22:05:48","modified_gmt":"2009-11-09T22:05:48","slug":"berlinski-still-pompous-still-wrong","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/2009\/11\/09\/berlinski-still-pompous-still-wrong\/","title":{"rendered":"Berlinski &#8211; still pompous, still wrong."},"content":{"rendered":"<p> An anonymous tipster sent me a note to let me know that on one of the Disco<br \/>\nInstitute&#8217;s sites, my old pal David Berlinski has been arguing that all sorts of<br \/>\nfamous mathematicians were <em>really<\/em> anti-evolution.<\/p>\n<p> I&#8217;ve <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/goodmath\/2006\/08\/bad_math_from_david_berlinksi.php\">written<br \/>\nabout Berlinski before.<\/a> In my opinion, he&#8217;s one of the most pointlessly<br \/>\narrogant pompous jackasses I&#8217;ve ever been unfortunate enough to deal with. He<br \/>\npractically redefines the phrase &#8220;full of himself&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p> This latest spewing of him is quite typical. It is mostly content free &#8211;<br \/>\nit consists of a whole lot of name-dropping, giving Berlinski a chance to talk<br \/>\nabout all of the wonderfully brilliant people he&#8217;s <em>close personal<br \/>\nfriends<\/em> with. And, quite naturally, his close personal friends have told<br \/>\nhim all sorts of things about what <em>other<\/em> famous mathematicians<br \/>\n<em>really<\/em> thought about evolution.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p> A typical taste of this is right at the start of the article. It&#8217;s set<br \/>\nup as an interview. Berlinski has been claiming that Jon von Neumann was <em>very<\/em><br \/>\nskeptical of evolution. Naturally, lots of people have called bullshit on that. So the<br \/>\n&#8220;interviewer&#8221; asks him about how he knows what JvN thought of evolution, when he<br \/>\nnever wrote anything about it. Berlinski&#8217;s answer:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p> How <em>do<\/em> I know? Here&#8217;s how:<\/p>\n<p> I have been close to a number of mathematicians, and friends with others:<br \/>\nDaniel Gallin (who died before he could begin his career), M.P. Schutzenberger<br \/>\n(my great friend), Ren\u00e9 Thom (a friend as well), Gian-Carlo Rota (another<br \/>\nfriend), Lipman Bers (who taught me complex analysis and with whom I briefly<br \/>\nshared a hospital room, he leaving as I was coming), Paul Halmos (a colleagues<br \/>\nin California), and Irving Segal (a friend by correspondence, embattled and<br \/>\ndistraught). Some of these men I admired very much, and all of them I liked.<\/p>\n<p> I had many other friends in the international mathematical community. <em>We<\/em><br \/>\nexchanged views; <em>I<\/em> got around.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p> See, he very typically starts off with lots of name-dropping. What does this list<br \/>\nhave to do with the question? Nothing, really. It&#8217;s just that Berlinski always<br \/>\nneeds to make it clear just how <em>special<\/em> he is, how he knows <em>lots<\/em><br \/>\nof famous people, and how truly smart and wonderfully connected he is.<\/p>\n<p> (Remember that this is the guy who <a href=\"http:\/\/zenoferox.blogspot.com\/2006\/04\/so-much-smarter-than-you.html\">tells<br \/>\nthe story<\/a> about how <em>he<\/em> managed to make a bunch of mathematics<br \/>\nprofessors <em>really<\/em> understand limits for the first time. He&#8217;s got a<br \/>\nreally amazing view of himself.)<\/p>\n<p> Anyway&#8230; He goes on to explain how Professor Rota really <em>wanted<\/em><br \/>\nto publish one of Berlinski&#8217;s anti-evolution screeds, but ended up deciding<br \/>\nnot to, for fear of the political damage that would be done to Berlinski. Of<br \/>\ncourse, we&#8217;re supposed to take Berlinski&#8217;s word for this: that this famous<br \/>\nprofessor of mathematics is really a huge fan of Berlinski&#8217;s anti-evolution<br \/>\nrubbish, but has never admitted to it, because he has &#8220;very refined political<br \/>\nsensibilities&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p> After a ridiculous additional amount of self-aggrandizing bullshit,<br \/>\nBerlinski <em>finally<\/em> gets to the point:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nI now pass to the point of this exercise. Where did I get my<br \/>\ninformation? Let me tell you. I got my information about Von Neumann from the<br \/>\nhorse&#8217;s mouth, the horse one step removed from the horse himself.<\/p>\n<p> Quite obviously I did not know Von Neumann personally. He was too old and I<br \/>\ntoo young ever to have met. So what I know of views I know at second hand. I<br \/>\nknow it from my friends.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p> To paraphrase Douglas Adams, &#8220;Ah, this  apparently is some entirely new<br \/>\nuse of the term &#8220;from the horses mouth&#8221; of which I was previously unaware&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p> Berlinski knows what Jon Von Neumann thought of the theory of evolution, because<br \/>\nhe heard it from the horses mouth. By which he means that some of his friends who<br \/>\n<em>might<\/em> have spoken to JvN about it at some point in time allegedly passed<br \/>\nJvNs opinions on to Berlinski long after vN had died.<\/p>\n<p> Now, vN did have some criticisms of the theory of evolution. If you<br \/>\nactually look at the things that he wrote about it, it&#8217;s pretty clear that he<br \/>\nwas being a typical mathematician. That is, looked at mathematically, the<br \/>\ntheory of evolution was under-defined. And he was, of course, right about<br \/>\nthat. Remember that at the time von Neumann was writing, DNA had just been<br \/>\ndiscovered &#8211; but no one knew yet how it worked. No one knew how mutations<br \/>\nworked. No one knew much of anything about how genes functioned. No one had a<br \/>\nparticularly good understanding of how the development of organisms from<br \/>\nreproductive cells really worked. <\/p>\n<p> All of those things were holes in the completeness of a theory of<br \/>\nevolution: evolution could describe how populations change, how selection<br \/>\nworks, but without being able to explain the mechanisms of inheritance and<br \/>\nmutation, the theory was incomplete. (Just like Newton&#8217;s theory of gravity is<br \/>\nincomplete: it can describe most of how gravity works, but it can&#8217;t explain<br \/>\nwhy; and it can&#8217;t explain some of the corner cases. It&#8217;s a damned good theory,<br \/>\nand it&#8217;s close to the truth, but it needs refinements to be accurate and to<br \/>\nexplain why it works.) Some of those are still gaps in our knowledge: we still<br \/>\ndon&#8217;t know a lot about how genes really work. Some we understand pretty well;<br \/>\nothers we&#8217;re still completely clueless about.<\/p>\n<p> But what did von Neumann really say? The primary documented quote from von<br \/>\nNeumann comes from a letter to George Gamow, a physicist who had some theories about<br \/>\nhow the structure of DNA could be interpreted to describe proteins:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nI still somewhat shudder at the thought that highly purposive<br \/>\norganizational elements, like the protein, should originate in a random<br \/>\nprocess. Yet many efficient and purposive media, e.g., language, or the<br \/>\nnational economy, also look statistically controlled, when viewed from a<br \/>\nsuitably limited aspect. On balance, I would therefore say that your argument<br \/>\nis quite strong.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> Hardly a strong criticism, huh? But it gets worse. Berlinski represents<br \/>\nthis as von Neumann being skeptical of the supposed randomness of evolution.<br \/>\nBut this wasn&#8217;t part of a general argument about evolution. This was von<br \/>\nNeumann discussing <em>Gamow&#8217;s<\/em> theory of how DNA worked. Gamow had worked<br \/>\nout an idea of how proteins were formed from DNA. He started with a null<br \/>\nhypothesis of random distributions of amino acids in proteins. Then he<br \/>\ncompared the results of looking at proteins with the result of what his model<br \/>\npredicted. His model was much better that the null hypothesis. The<br \/>\ncorrespondence with von Neumann was in relation to von Neumann working with<br \/>\nGamow to develop a complete mathematical model of the random amino-acid<br \/>\nhypothesis!<\/p>\n<p> In other words, Gamow and von Neumann were discussing a hypothesis that<br \/>\nthey were hoping to <em>reject<\/em> in favor of something that seemed to make<br \/>\nmore sense!<\/p>\n<p> So, as usual, when you actually look at things in detail, Berlinski is<br \/>\nbeing his usual pompous self. He&#8217;s got <em>nothing<\/em> to support his<br \/>\nclaims except some out-of-context quotes, and a bunch of supposed<br \/>\n&#8220;personal contacts&#8221; which refuse to publicly back him up because of their<br \/>\nfears of political retribution.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An anonymous tipster sent me a note to let me know that on one of the Disco Institute&#8217;s sites, my old pal David Berlinski has been arguing that all sorts of famous mathematicians were really anti-evolution. I&#8217;ve written about Berlinski before. In my opinion, he&#8217;s one of the most pointlessly arrogant pompous jackasses I&#8217;ve ever [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[31],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-820","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-intelligent-design"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4lzZS-de","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/820","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=820"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/820\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=820"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=820"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=820"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}