{"id":828,"date":"2009-11-19T15:51:28","date_gmt":"2009-11-19T15:51:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scientopia.org\/blogs\/goodmath\/2009\/11\/19\/the-balance-of-screening-tests\/"},"modified":"2009-11-19T15:51:28","modified_gmt":"2009-11-19T15:51:28","slug":"the-balance-of-screening-tests","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/2009\/11\/19\/the-balance-of-screening-tests\/","title":{"rendered":"The Balance of Screening Tests"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> As you&#8217;ve no doubt heard by now, there&#8217;s been a new recommendation issues<br \/>\nwhich proposes changing the breast-cancer screening protocol for women under<br \/>\n50, by eliminating mammograms for women who don&#8217;t have significant risk<br \/>\nfactos. While Orac has done a terrific job of covering this <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/insolence\/2009\/11\/really_rethinking_breast_cancer_screenin.php\">here<\/a> and<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/insolence\/2009\/11\/obamas_makin_death_panels_for_your_mama.php\">here<\/a>, I wanted to throw<br \/>\nin a couple of notes and a personal perspective.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p> To begin with, there&#8217;s a bit of math which has been bandied about, and<br \/>\nI thought I&#8217;d just quickly walk through it.<\/p>\n<p> When you look at things like screening programs, what you&#8217;re doing is<br \/>\nperforming some kind of test on a very large population, in the hopes of<br \/>\nfinding a comparatively small number of serious illnesses. Any process<br \/>\nlike that is, necessarily a tradeoff.<\/p>\n<p> I&#8217;m going to use <em>totally fake<\/em> numbers to explain this &#8211; so don&#8217;t<br \/>\nthink that these numbers are real.<\/p>\n<p> Suppose that you&#8217;ve got a non-contagious disease which will be caught by<br \/>\none out of every 1,000 individuals. That&#8217;s a fairly rare disease. If<br \/>\nit were harmless, you&#8217;d completely ignore it &#8211; you wouldn&#8217;t even bother<br \/>\nspending money on researching a cure for it. It&#8217;s just not worth the<br \/>\ntrouble.<\/p>\n<p> Now, suppose that the disease is universally fatal. Only one person out of<br \/>\nevery 1,000 will catch it &#8211; but <em>all<\/em> of them will die. In this case,<br \/>\nthere&#8217;s not much point in trying to figure out who has it &#8211; there&#8217;s nothing<br \/>\nyou can do for them. But you would start spending money to figure out how<br \/>\nto cure it.<\/p>\n<p> Now for the tricky case. Suppose that the disease isn&#8217;t universally<br \/>\nfatal. It&#8217;s almost always fatal if it&#8217;s had time to establish itself. But<br \/>\nif you catch it early enough, then you can with high probability, save the<br \/>\nperson who has it. This is the case for cancers where we consider<br \/>\ndoing screening.<\/p>\n<p> In this last case, there&#8217;s a very complicated tradeoff. Should you<br \/>\nspend time and money trying to detect the disease? Or should you spend<br \/>\nthe time and money trying to discover better treatments for the disease?\n<\/p>\n<p> In fact, the tradeoff is ever worse that that, for two reasons. First, the<br \/>\nscreening process has a huge false positive rate. The screening process comes<br \/>\nup positive in 5 out of every 1000 cases. So you wind up treating 4 people who<br \/>\n<em>don&#8217;t have the disease<\/em>. And the treatment isn&#8217;t always completely<br \/>\nbenign. Most of the time, you do an additional test, and that&#8217;s it. But that<br \/>\nadditional test has some amount of risk to it &#8211; some people will end up dying<br \/>\nas a result of the treatment for a disease that they didn&#8217;t have. And second,<br \/>\nthe test itself isn&#8217;t risk free: it&#8217;s got a small but real chance of<br \/>\ncausing exactly the disease that it&#8217;s being used to detect!<\/p>\n<p> So how do you set a balance? You can screen people &#8211; and save some number<br \/>\nof lives by detecting disease that would have killed them had it gone<br \/>\nundetected. But by doing that, you&#8217;ll give the disease to some number of<br \/>\npeople who wouldn&#8217;t have gotten it otherwise; and you&#8217;ll harm some number of<br \/>\npeople who were caught in the screening process, but didn&#8217;t have the disease<br \/>\nat all.<\/p>\n<p> It ends up coming down to a mathematical optimization process. You want to<br \/>\nmaximize the survival rate of the population as a whole. You do that by<br \/>\nputting together a lot of factors: how many people will get the disease? How<br \/>\nmany will miss detection if you don&#8217;t do the screening? How many will get the<br \/>\ndisease as a result of the screening? How many will be harmed by procedures<br \/>\ndone as a result of false positives? And how many could have been saved by<br \/>\nspending money on developing cures instead of screening?<\/p>\n<p> The current situation <em>appears<\/em> to be that for women under<br \/>\n50 who don&#8217;t have other risk factors, it doesn&#8217;t make sense for them<br \/>\nto get the screening. The risks and costs of the screening outweigh any<br \/>\nbenefits of it.<\/p>\n<p> To shift to the personal side for a moment, I&#8217;d like to provide you<br \/>\nwith a concrete example of how a false positive can do harm.<\/p>\n<p> Close to 20 years ago now, my father had a muscular cancer in his leg. He<br \/>\nhad surgery followed by radiation to have it removed. Everything went<br \/>\nbeautifully. It turned out to be a highly aggressive cancer, but the surgery<br \/>\nappeared to have gotten it all. But because it was so aggressive, they wanted<br \/>\nto keep screening, looking for any trace of a recurrence. About two years<br \/>\nafter the surgery, they saw <em>something<\/em> on an x-ray &#8211; it was either a<br \/>\npatch of scar tissue right by a vein, or it was the beginning of a new tumor.<br \/>\nThey did numerous tests, but nothing was able to determine definitively what<br \/>\nthe hell it was. A radiologist from Memorial Sloan-Kettering thought it was<br \/>\njust scar tissue, and recommended waiting. But the radiologist from the<br \/>\nhospital where the surgeon worked was equally sure that it was cancer. So they<br \/>\ndecided to do surgery &#8211; it was an aggressive cancer with a very low survival<br \/>\nrate; why take a chance on letting it spread? So they went in and removed it.<br \/>\nThe second surgery went very badly. It took over a year for the surgical wound<br \/>\nto heal, and there was enough circulation lost during the surgery to kill the<br \/>\nnerves in his leg. After that surgery, he could never feel or move that leg<br \/>\nbeneath the knee. For the next 18 years, it caused constant trouble with poor<br \/>\ncirculation. A blood clot in the vein affected by the surgery is what<br \/>\neventually led to his death.<\/p>\n<p> The point of that isn&#8217;t to tell you a sad story &#8211; but to illustrate the<br \/>\nvery real risks of any intervention. The initial surgery &#8211; the one for the<br \/>\nconfirmed cancer, was a complex procedure, due to the location and type of the<br \/>\ntumor. But the second one was quite routine &#8211; removing a one-centimeter,<br \/>\nwell-isolated mass from the muscle below the knee. It wasn&#8217;t simple, but it<br \/>\nwasn&#8217;t by any means a particularly complicated surgery either: it was the sort<br \/>\nof procedure that the surgeon geon did, on average, twice a week! But even a<br \/>\nroutine procedure has risks. Even the most routine procedure can, in rare<br \/>\ncases, wind up killing you.<\/p>\n<p> That&#8217;s the point of the optimization problem that&#8217;s used to figure out<br \/>\nwhether or not to screen for a potentially deadly disease: no intervention is<br \/>\never free &#8211; and I don&#8217;t mean that just in terms of money. Every intervention<br \/>\ncomes with an associated risk. You have to find out where the balance point is<br \/>\nbetween the risks that you&#8217;re trying to protect people from, and the risks<br \/>\nthat you&#8217;re going to inflict on people in the process of protecting them.<\/p>\n<p> The best recent evidence, when put into that optimization problem, has<br \/>\nstrongly suggested that the mammograms in women under 50 aren&#8217;t worth the<br \/>\nrisk. The risk of the radiation of a yearly mammogram plus the risks of the<br \/>\nbiopsies end up being worse, on average, than not doing the mammogram. The<br \/>\nbalance point between risk and benefit doesn&#8217;t work out well until you<br \/>\nshift the pool of people being screened to be older &#8211; and thus at higher<br \/>\nrisk.<\/p>\n<p> The natural response to this is to say: but what about the women under 50<br \/>\nwho have cancer that would have been detected early enough to be cured? Isn&#8217;t<br \/>\nrefusing to give them mammograms harming them?<\/p>\n<p> Yes, it is. But <em>giving<\/em> the mammograms will harm a different<br \/>\ngroup of women &#8211; and it appears that the group harmed by the earlier<br \/>\nmammograms is larger that the group helped by them. <\/p>\n<p> To give a very different example of screening balance decision, one<br \/>\nwhich again has some personal resonance for me:<\/p>\n<p> Most men will, at some point in their lives, suffer from gastric reflux.<br \/>\nOne of the side-effects of severe reflux is esophageal cancer &#8211; which is<br \/>\nalmost universally fatal.<\/p>\n<p> Esophageal cancer is actually pretty easy to screen for. The<br \/>\nvast majority of cases start as pre-cancerous lesions in the esophagus<br \/>\nlong before the cancer develops. Those lesions can <em>easily<\/em><br \/>\nbe detected by doing an upper endoscopy. Nearly every case of<br \/>\nreflux-driven esophageal cancer is <em>preventable<\/em> by<br \/>\nendoscopic screening.<\/p>\n<p> So &#8211; if we can save all of those people, why don&#8217;t we give every man over<br \/>\n40 a yearly endoscopy? Because the endoscopy has risks. They&#8217;re not<br \/>\nparticularly common &#8211; but when they happen, they&#8217;re pretty severe (perforation<br \/>\nof the esophagus and\/or stomach, infection). Even though those occur<br \/>\n<em>very<\/em> rarely, they <em>do<\/em> occur. And the risk of those injuries<br \/>\ncaused by the procedure outweigh the benefits of the procedure for men with no<br \/>\nsymptoms or risk factors for severe reflux-related disease. (The personal<br \/>\nconnection here is that I&#8217;ve had <em>6<\/em> endoscopies, and surgery to try to<br \/>\neliminate the reflux. I&#8217;ve also had several relatives die of esophageal cancer<br \/>\ncaused by reflux.)<\/p>\n<p> In contrast, we do routinely do colonoscopies to screen for colon cancer.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s another common, dangerous cancer. And the risks of doing a colonoscopy<br \/>\nare comparable (if not a bit greater!) to the risks of an endoscopy. But it&#8217;s<br \/>\ngot no symptoms that we can use to identify people who are likely to develop<br \/>\nit. So we can&#8217;t do what we do with endoscopies &#8211; which is to select people at<br \/>\nrisk based on symptoms. So we routinely screen people when they get to the<br \/>\nright age &#8211; because the number of lives saved is less than the number of lives<br \/>\nlost due to complications.<\/p>\n<p> If we started doing colonoscopies at 30 instead of the current recommendation<br \/>\nof 50, we&#8217;d save some people from dying of colon cancer. But we&#8217;d also hurt<br \/>\na whole lot of people without colon cancer. So we don&#8217;t do it.<\/p>\n<p> It all comes back to the optimization problem: find the optimal point<br \/>\nwhere the benefits, costs, and risks balance out.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As you&#8217;ve no doubt heard by now, there&#8217;s been a new recommendation issues which proposes changing the breast-cancer screening protocol for women under 50, by eliminating mammograms for women who don&#8217;t have significant risk factos. 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