{"id":861,"date":"2010-06-17T13:45:15","date_gmt":"2010-06-17T13:45:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scientopia.org\/blogs\/goodmath\/2010\/06\/17\/metaphorical-crankery-a-bad-metaphor-is-like-a-steaming-pile-of\/"},"modified":"2010-06-17T13:45:15","modified_gmt":"2010-06-17T13:45:15","slug":"metaphorical-crankery-a-bad-metaphor-is-like-a-steaming-pile-of","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/2010\/06\/17\/metaphorical-crankery-a-bad-metaphor-is-like-a-steaming-pile-of\/","title":{"rendered":"Metaphorical Crankery: a bad metaphor is like a steaming pile of &#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> So, another bit of Cantor stuff. This time, it really isn&#8217;t Cantor<br \/>\ncrankery, so much as it is just Cantor muddling. The <a href=\"http:\/\/rjlipton.wordpress.com\/2010\/06\/11\/does-cantors-diagonalization-proof-cheat\/\">post<br \/>\nthat provoked this<\/a> is not, I think, crankery of any kind &#8211; but it<br \/>\ndemonstrates a common problem that drives me crazy; to steal a nifty phrase<br \/>\nfrom youaredumb.net, people who can&#8217;t count to meta-three really shouldn&#8217;t try<br \/>\nto use metaphors.<\/p>\n<p> The problem is: You use a metaphor to describe some concept. The metaphor<br \/>\n<em>isn&#8217;t<\/em> the thing you describe &#8211; it&#8217;s just a tool that you use. But<br \/>\nsomeone takes the metaphor, and runs with it, making arguments that are built<br \/>\nentirely on metaphor, but which bear no relation to the real underlying<br \/>\nconcept. And they believe that whatever conclusions they draw from the<br \/>\nmetaphor must, therefore, apply to the original concept.<\/p>\n<p> In the context of Cantor, I&#8217;ve seen this a lot of times. The post that<br \/>\ninspired me to write this isn&#8217;t, I think, really making this mistake. I think<br \/>\nthat the author is actually trying to argue that this is a lousy metaphor to<br \/>\nuse for Cantor, and proposing an alternative. But I&#8217;ve seen exactly this<br \/>\nreasoning used, many times, by Cantor cranks as a purported disproof. The<br \/>\ncranky claim is: Cantor&#8217;s proof is wrong, because <em>it cheats<\/em>. <\/p>\n<p> Of course, if you look at Cantor&#8217;s proof as a mathematical construct, it&#8217;s<br \/>\na perfectly valid, logical, and even beautiful proof by contradiction. There&#8217;s<br \/>\nno cheating. So where do the &#8220;cheat&#8221; claims come from?<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p> Muddled metaphors.<\/p>\n<p> A common way of describing Cantor&#8217;s proof is in terms of games. Suppose<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve got two players: Alice and Bob. Alice thinks of a number, and<br \/>\nBob guesses. Bob wins if he guesses Alice&#8217;s number.<\/p>\n<p> If Alice is restricted to a finite set of integers, then Bob will<br \/>\nwin in a bounded set of guesses. For example, if Alice is only allowed<br \/>\nto pick numbers between 1 and 20, then Bob is going to win within 20 guesses.<\/p>\n<p> If Alice is restricted to natural numbers, then Bob will win &#8211; but it<br \/>\ncould take an arbitrarily long time. The number of steps until he wins is<br \/>\nfinite, but unbounded. His strategy is simple: guess 0. If that&#8217;s not it, guess 1. If<br \/>\nthat&#8217;s not it, guess 2. And so on. Eventually, he&#8217;ll win. And, in fact, after<br \/>\neach unsuccessful guess, Bob&#8217;s guess is <em>closer<\/em> to Alice&#8217;s number.<\/p>\n<p> If Alice can use integers, then it gets harder for Bob &#8211; but it doesn&#8217;t<br \/>\nreally change much. Still, in a finite but unbounded number of guesses, Bob<br \/>\nwill get Alice&#8217;s number and win. Now, the &#8220;closer every guess&#8221; doesn&#8217;t really<br \/>\napply any more &#8211; but something very close does: there are no steps where Bob<br \/>\ngets <em>further away<\/em> from the absolute value of Alice&#8217;s number; and<br \/>\nevery two steps, he&#8217;s guaranteed to get closer to the absolute value of<br \/>\nAlice&#8217;s number.<\/p>\n<p> We can make it harder for Bob &#8211; by saying that Alice can pick any<br \/>\nfraction. Now Bob&#8217;s strategy gets much harder. He needs to work out a system<br \/>\nto guess all the rationals. He can do that. But now the properties about<br \/>\ngetting closer to Alice&#8217;s number no longer apply. He&#8217;s no longer doing things<br \/>\nin an order where his value is converging on Alice&#8217;s number. But still, after<br \/>\na finite number of steps, he&#8217;ll get it.<\/p>\n<p> Finally, we could let Alice pick any <em>real<\/em> number. And now,<br \/>\nthe rules change: for any strategy that Bob picks for going  through the<br \/>\nreal numbers, Alice can find a number that Bob won&#8217;t even guess.<\/p>\n<p> There&#8217;s a fundamental asymmetry there. In all of the other versions of the<br \/>\ngame, Alice had to pick her number first, and then Bob would try to guess it. Now,<br \/>\nAlice doesn&#8217;t pick her number until <em>after<\/em> Bob starts guessing &#8211; and she<br \/>\nonly picks her number after knowing Bob&#8217;s strategy. So Alice is cheating.<\/p>\n<p> The game metaphor demonstrates the basic idea of Cantor&#8217;s theorem. The<br \/>\nnaturals, integers, and rationals are all infinite sets, but they&#8217;re all<br \/>\ncountable. In the game setting, <em>even if<\/em> Alice knows Bob&#8217;s strategy,<br \/>\nshe <em>can&#8217;t<\/em> pick a number from any of those sets which Bob won&#8217;t guess<br \/>\neventually. But with the real numbers, she can &#8211; because there&#8217;s something<br \/>\nfundamentally different about the real numbers. <\/p>\n<p> Of course, if it&#8217;s a game, and the only way that Alice can win is<br \/>\nby knowing exactly what Bob is going to do &#8211; by knowing his complete<br \/>\nstrategy from now to infinity &#8211; then the only way that Alice can win is<br \/>\nby cheating. In a game, if you get to know your opponent&#8217;s moves in advance,<br \/>\nand you get to plan your moves <em>in perfect anticipation<\/em> of every<br \/>\nmove that they&#8217;re going to make &#8212; you get to <em>change<\/em> your move<br \/>\n<em>in reaction to<\/em> their move, but they don&#8217;t get to respond likewise<br \/>\nto your moves &#8212; that is, by definition, cheating. You&#8217;ve got an unfair<br \/>\nadvantage. Bob has to pick his strategy in advance and tell it to Alice, and<br \/>\nthen Alice can use that to pick her moves in a way that guarantees that<br \/>\nBob will lose.<\/p>\n<p> The problem with this metaphor is that <em>Cantor&#8217;s proof isn&#8217;t a<br \/>\ngame<\/em>. There are no players. No one wins, and no one loses. The<br \/>\nwhole concept of fairness <em>makes no sense<\/em> in the context of Cantor&#8217;s<br \/>\nproof. It makes sense in <em>the metaphor<\/em> used to explain Cantor&#8217;s<br \/>\nproof. But the metaphor isn&#8217;t the proof. A proof isn&#8217;t a competition.<br \/>\nIt doesn&#8217;t have to be <em>fair<\/em>; it only has to be <em>correct<\/em>.<br \/>\nThe fact that what Cantor&#8217;s proof does would be cheating if it were a game<br \/>\nis completely irrelevant.<\/p>\n<p> This kind of nonsense doesn&#8217;t just happen in Cantor crankery. You see the<br \/>\nsame problem <em>constantly<\/em>, in almost any kind of discussion which uses<br \/>\nmetaphors. There are chemistry cranks who take the metaphor of an electron<br \/>\norbiting an atomic nucleus like a planet orbits a sun, and use it to create<br \/>\nsome of the most insane arguments. (The most extreme example of this in my<br \/>\nexperience was a guy back on usenet, who called himself Ludwig von Ludvig,<br \/>\nthen Ludwig Plutonium, and then <a href=\"http:\/\/www.iw.net\/~a_plutonium\/\">Archimedes Plutonium<\/a>. He went<br \/>\nbeyond the simple orbit stuff, and looked at diagrams in physics books of<br \/>\n&#8220;electron clouds&#8221; around a nucleus. Since in the books, those clouds are made<br \/>\nof dots, he decided that the electrons were really made up of a cloud of dots<br \/>\naround the nucleus, and that our universe was actually a plutonium atom, where<br \/>\nthe dots in the picture were actually galaxies.) There are physics bozos who<br \/>\ndo things like worry about the semi-dead cats. There are politicians who worry<br \/>\nabout new world orders, because of a stupid flowery metaphorical phrase that<br \/>\nsomeone used in a speech 20 years ago.<\/p>\n<p><p> It&#8217;s amazing. But there&#8217;s really no limit to how incredibly, astonishingly<br \/>\nstupid people can be. And the idea of an imperfect metaphor is, apparently,<br \/>\nmuch too complicated for an awful lot of people.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So, another bit of Cantor stuff. This time, it really isn&#8217;t Cantor crankery, so much as it is just Cantor muddling. The post that provoked this is not, I think, crankery of any kind &#8211; but it demonstrates a common problem that drives me crazy; to steal a nifty phrase from youaredumb.net, people who can&#8217;t [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-861","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-cantor-crankery"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4lzZS-dT","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/861","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=861"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/861\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=861"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=861"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.goodmath.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=861"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}